My first Ruger was their Model 77 in .300 Win Mag, and it was a shooter no doubt about it and to this day, I cant remember if I sold or traded it for something else. I just think he deserves more credit for what he did to influence the industry. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Not as bad as shooting 3 1/2 goose loads out of a lightweight 12 gauge, but still noticeable. Capacity10 Height7.30" Overall Length39.25"-42.75" Length of Pull12" - 15.50" Folded Still, when you are demanding your best efforts on each and every shot, it takes a toll on you, so that is one reason the shooting was conducted over the course of several days. But this gun is so well thought out and functional. Thats war. which puts the ogive 0.020 or closer to the rifling. Cant really believe it doesnt come with a bipod spud, which wouldnt have cost much, because I cant really believe people are going to put vertical grips, flashlights and other such nonsense on a rifle like this. However, were not talking about hunting rifles per se in this article. I get the same accuracy with either of my Armalite AR10s. They are OK up at 800 yds. while the .308 measured 9.886 lbs. I havent used the heaviest new bullets that could be considered Creedmoor; bullets, bullets over 142 grains, but have been reloading long enough to say stick with 140-142 grain bullets, SMK, Amax, Accubond etc, and RL22. They sent it back with a 50 yard test target (useless) and called it good. Overall, I was very pleased and expect to get the accuracy sorted out on this rifle. I think that gun looks really ugly, but youre opinion may vary. As these weight savings came from the muzzle end of things, the .308 version is much faster to shoulder and doesnt fatigue the support arm with offhand shooting. Ruger Precision Rifle BTW, we didnt know we couldnt hit the steel with the old .308 round because the hot .264s (6.5CM, .260 Rem, etc) hadnt been invented yet. In WW II they were 03 Sprinfields and Garands. However, if I had my .308s piled up, and had the money to play, I would choose the 6.5 Grendel in a low cost rife from Palmetto State Armory, and that could my DMR platform after a low cost version in 5.56, or better yet, a 7.62 version that would cost much more in the AR-10. Maybe in the next life. target shooting, but with the 20 barrel I dont think Ill ever get there. If the RPR cant get the same or better, its really not worth it. It eked out a couple sub-MOA groups, so it passes the 1 MOA for $1,000 rule of thumb. But I still did very well, all things considered. But an F-class Savage doesnt look as tacticool, so it cant be as good. Backing way up to the start of this whole process, we have the issue of how the barrels were treated on break-in. Our local deluxe range is a 50 mile drive one way so I rarely use the place nowadays. In a 10lb 308? The 175 grain Match Hollow Point load was hot on the heels of the lighter bullet, and gave me groups just above of an inch consistently. I believe the Ruger Precision Rifle is capable of even better accuracy than I achieved. WebRuger Marksman Adjustable trigger is externally adjustable with a pull weight range of 2.25 to 5.0 lbs. Ive got just under 3,000 rounds through it and am paying close attention to groups for any signs of throat erosion. Specs: God speed and happy shooting SIr. Where these accuracy gremlins really start to manifest themselves was out at the quarter-mile line and beyond. I expect it will improve with a new 6.5CM barrel from Patriot Valley Arms. Mine, in .308, comes in at .443 with match 168gr. Accuracy was so bad after I bought it I sent it back to Ruger. With the 6.5 cm with 130 Berger hybrid, 42.5 gn of H4350, .015 of the lands you will shoot between .1 MOA to .3 MOA. BTW, cold bore it shot dead center and 1.5 high with the R700 setup at 100 yards. /sarcasm. I have a Remington model 600 350 Rem Mag that I would not want to shoot a few boxes of ammo at the range for the sake of my shoulder (or wallet ) but, it was not intended for plinking. If you love to wear polyester fabric jackets? Those vibrations run down the barrel ahead of the bullet. I am fully stocked and geared for 308 and was hoping to expand my horizons with the RPR in 6.5 Creedmor. Not sure where you are getting your factory ammo if its the same price at 6.5. So if you can get it done with a shorter barrel, you should, as the payoff in handling is well worth the velocity penalty. WebDescription. In the 29 barrel of the M96, the bullet might be 50 fps faster. A little over 2-2.5 off-hand. From Black Hills, I had their .308 Winchester 168-gr Match Hollow Point load, and their 175 grain Match Hollow point. From prone off the ground with a bipod (Atlas) the RPR shot roughly moa for me with Factory 168g SMK and slightly worse with some Hornady 165g Interlok handloads with Varget that are designed to mimic 165 SGK loads. But from what I can tell, the authors ~0.9 MOA seems to be fairly consistent among reviewers. It is a shooter! I found the RPR stayed in the gun safe, while the Magpul Hunter actually gets put to use. I run these bullets in a 6.555 M38 at reduced speeds to match the calibration on a turret scope set up for a 7.62 NATO 168 grain trajectory. JWR is a journalist, technical writer, and novelist. He loves that gun and it shoots regular 1 MOA groups he says. It is 9 pound rig with about 11 pounds of recoil, and even when it heats up, there is little change in the accuracy, that is right at MOA. Ruger has been producing some outstanding bolt-action hunting rifles for as long as I can remember and Im old, real old so I can remember a long time back. to ask. Those hunting handloads are easily moa out of my R-25 and also out of a 16 custom barreled rifle I recently built. It might be better to get a good to go Creedmoor, yet a .30-06 can duplicate Creedmoor performance ballistically using 200 grain bullets, but it will have 20 to 22 pounds of felt recoil, instead of 12 to 14 pounds for the Creedmoor. Averages around 2-2.5 with the same loads that do .5-.7 in my Savage 10BA. If anybody has experimented with the Swede loaded with the new bullets out there for the 6.5 Creedmore, Id love to see their results. The next email was to the rest of the crew at TTAG to say, Back off! I did have some groups well over an inch but that was me pulling a shot not the gun, and certainly not the ammo. But the fact is that nobody in the top 10 of the Precision Rifle Series used a hinged floorplate to feed their rifle, and none of them ran stock bolt knobs, or factory stocks. We shot some anyway, just to see how far off they would be. I just picked one up used in 308 for $1000 as an impulse buy even though I was impatiently waiting for one in 6.5. For a serious shooter, barrels tend to be more accurate after a thousand rounds. Core-Lokts. Something is wrong. But if you take that perfectly serviceable barreled action out of the stock its in, drop it in a nice chassis that accepts AICS Mags ($400-$700), put a 20 MOA rail ($50-$100) on it, and give it an oversized bolt handle knob for better bolt manipulation ($150), youll be in the $1,300-$1,650 range excluding shipping, and various other gunsmith-labor-related charges that might crop up. Im actually a bit shocked, because Im able to pull 0.7MOA groups with a piston-driven semi auto, while this one cant even do that. I was awarded best marksman in the military shooting the fn-c1 in 7.62 nato, rear peep, front blade. Oh, and theres accuracy, but more on that later. First we had people whinging about the recoil on .223s/5.56s and seeking out muzzle brakes to tame this recoil. The very notion still makes my brain ponder WTF are they talking about? Now we have more whinging about recoil on a rifle where most of us old guys usually ask what recoil? when said rifle weighs more than 7 lbs. Its just a matter of wearing down the bumps and filling in the pits with copper. Was hoping to hear good things about this rifle as it has so many features I like, but it looks as though a heavy barreled Savage or Weatherby will out shine what is otherwise an impressive rifle. I was also dealing with every Tom, Dick, and Harry that was sighting in his muzzle loader that wanted to chat about the rifle or look over my shoulder when I was shooting it. Length of pull is 12-inches to 15.50-inches again, depending on how and where you have the stock adjusted so this rifle will fit just about anyone. That shouldnt be a surprise at all since theyre functionally the exact same rifle from the chamber backwards. Thank you! MAG291-BLK Best Scope For Ruger Precision Rifle (Top WebHeight: 7.30". So much for long range shooting. From the trigger to the patented multi-magazine interface (which functions interchangeably with AICS and M110/SR-25/DPMS/Magpul-style magazines and some M14 magazines) to its compatibility with the AR-15 platform and beyond, I have a really hard time dinging it much. I am close to that now. The RPR is built of similar parts with a much higher degree of final finish. My guess is that the exterior diameter of both barrels are the same. I'm hoping for the best with this new RPR. I still dont understand why this is better/worth ~$300 more than a ~$900 DPMS AR-10 that can shoot ~1 moa. Uh, the Czech ammo hit the plate over and over again using the same come-up data. Hornady Match ammo. More importantly, 6.5 long-range rifle is hands down an easier bullet to shoot in the wind. They are virtually identical, but the Creedmoor is a tad faster, and because it is a modern rifle, and sold as a precision rifle, and factory ammunition is tailored for accuracy at long ranges, the rifle will likely be more accurate straight out of the box. My RPR in 338 Lapua broke after 38 shots of factory ammo. Im guessing the exterior dimensions of the barrels are the same, making the .308 a thinner barrel. Lapping would help, but it would shorten the life of the barrel. Few people are going to compete in F target class with a deer rifle. So either way buying the .308 would probably save a few hundred dollars. There just might another article in me on that, and several other gun related topics. Flatter shooting 123 grain Amax, and the SST has more than enough ballistic coefficient (.510), and the same ballistic coefficient, so they are interchangeable. Ruger Precision Rifle: Worth It? - The Shooter's Log It shoots the same ammo 100-150 fps slower than a Savage model 10 I have with the same length barrel. My hand loads shoot 5-shot 0.5 MOA groups all day long. If I didnt think it would break Nicks review engine, Id award the RPR six stars for customization. Ruger did their homework on figuring out the things a precision rifle needs. Weight is your friend with target rifles. . Apparently, that was back when men still made noises of large hardened steel bearings bouncing off each other whilst they walked to the firing line. Accuracy isnt all its cracked up to be. Two nearly completely in the same hole. BTHP and the 155 gr. Suggested Retail$1929.00. $1,039.00 $989.99. Another a savage trophy hunter in 308, scoped with a Nikon 39. At 100 yards, no. Notify Me When Available. However, it can get the job done. I like the Ruger Marksmanship Adjustable trigger, with a pull rating of 2.25-lbs to 5-pounds my sample came from the factory right at 3.25-lbs and I didnt see any need to adjust it any lighter, or heavier the pull weight was just perfect for my use. My ar15 and ar10 both shoot 3/4 moa at 100 yds but I hand load those rounds.. When Nick wrote that review, he said street price was $650. There is also a muzzle brake supplied, on the factory threaded barrel. I have built this combo, with the ESS chassis and was still able to throw a nice 4-16 Vortex scope on it and come in at about $1700 CAD (about $1300 USD). The Swedish Mauser tend to be accurate when they should not be, yet each one is different. WebBuy Magpul PMAG AR-10 MAG GEN M3 308 Win/7.62 NATO M110 LR/SR 20 rd: GunBroker is the largest seller of Rifle Magazines & Rifle Clips Rifle Parts Gun Parts All: 983023781 the PMAG 20 LR/SR GEN M3 is a lightweight, cost effective, highly reliable magazine for SR25/M110 pattern rifles. Were in the middle of trying to fight a New-Zealand style ban right now. The two Gen 2 RPR 6 CMs I bought running side by side tests averaged about the same. Ruger Rifles for Sale Best .308 Ammo & 7.62x51 [Target Shooting, Plinking, & Hunting] POOR service in anyones opinion. Its very difficult to convince a detective, a prosecutor, a jury, and a judge, that the man you shot at 680 meters was a direct and immediate threat to you. shooter. Ive only to put on my slippers and step out my shop door on select days to harvest my elk(<115yrds so there'll be no humping it. Been shooting for more than 40 years and never heard of such a thing. We have a gun that holds 10 rounds in the removable magazine. Damn kids. You can read the balance of the specs on the Ruger web site, however, needless to say, the rifle offers a lot of goodies for what it is. A good 3-940 scope priced under a hundred bucks can suffice. What designating a rifle as a sniper rifle, or even counter-sniper rifle does do, is give the gun-grabbers one more thing to latch onto and try and ban. The RPR is not a tactical carbine. I already have a great 155 grain load for my AR. Ruger Precision Rifle .308 Win Gen.3 - Bchsen - Waffen If it can fill next year's elk tags and provide entertainment out to 500-800yrds(which in 60+ years I've never done) I'll be content. But it can sure work as one, even though it is about 10 pounds unloaded without a scope it could be carried afield for hunting. I get it: each person can use their guns for whatever application they want. Both have proven to be excellent sniper rifles and both have taken down their targets with 1 shot. The .308 still gets a four-star rating but its really more of a 4.1 or 4.2 because of the accuracy issues. ( the new wife was happy I got rid of it ). , My .308 Ruger Precision Rifle w/Vortex PST optics shoots 2.5 MOA with168 Berger VLD. PMAGs of course are cheaper, but the only chassis system that will take those is Magpuls new Hunter line. Length of Pull: 12" - 15.50". Box 303 I was holding about a 12 group at 800 yds. To keep things proportional, Ruger elected to go with a shorter rail from Samson. I believe their opinions are formed largely by following the current trend versus first-hand experience. I have the same rifle. Josh Wayner even did a lot of the heavy lifting for me to demonstrate that if nothing else, shorter barrels on a .308 arent inherently less accurate. WebBarrel features a Ruger Precision Rifle Hybrid Muzzle Brake to effectively reduce recoil while minimizing noise and blast to the sides of the shooter. Getting a scope thats able to match your rifles shooting ability is your key to success. You said it picked up pieces of the patch, is that something thatll fire-lap you think, or not. First, the .308 is a more powerful round until well beyond what could be considered an ethical hunting range. In any event, well all have to answer for our actions someday. Hmmm, your comment about having sell your 300 win mag when newly married, struck a cord with me, as I did the same thing. Is everybody else lying or is somthing else going on here ? If I had to grab one of these and run though, I think Id still go for my late 70s Ruger M77 in 7mm Mag. The weights vary by chambering, but with the lightest model starting at 9.7 lbs. I dont know about everyone else on this blog but 3 different rifle calibers of the same rifle with THREE different barrel lengths!? Web1) Vortex Viper HST 6-24x50mm Rifle Scope. Please support this website by adding us to your whitelist in your ad blocker. It is plenty for those ranges, and it will be flatter as a result. Great observations (rant) on recoil management and other topics. Especially with the different ammo you fed it. Our mail forwarding address is: James Wesley, Rawles Second, the Creedmore is just as powerful as the harder recoiling .308 downrange due to its higher BC. So the 24 barrel 6.5mm is more accurate than the 20 barrel .308? it is and always has been a super accurate rifle, as long as you dont fire more than 3 or 4 rounds and heat up the barrel it goes south pretty fast when it gets hot. You my friend, need to seriously write a book! Ruger Precision Rifle .308Win 20" Barrel - turners.com Dont know for sure, but the Amax make large holes for exit wounds. Alternatively, I spend quite a few days in the fall, winter, and early spring in and out of a truck or blind and on foot in search of whitetail, axis, and pigs. The 6.5 shot the 120 gr. My .308 RPR turned in a .443 with Federal Gold 168 gr. I cant wait to get my hands on this rifle. I use IMR 4895 exclusively in my ARs and intend to stick with it for simplicity and because I have 10lbs. It can be any long gun, that is capable of placing the shots where you want them to be. And good luck to you with yours. I have become a big fan of nitrided barrels from Criterion, a spinoff of Krieger. WebBuy Ruger Precision Rifle .308 Win. My SR762 is surprisingly a bit more accurate than this rifle with 168 grain match ammo. Ruger Precision Rifle WebMedium-contour (.75" at the muzzle) threaded barrel with 5/8"-24 threads. Folded Length: 31.60". Jim is the originator of the American Redoubt movement and a frequent talk show and podcast guest. I got a Remington 700 LTR, which also has a 20 barrel, but Im guessing it will probably be a better 800 yrd. My current .308 bolt gun is a 13 pound target rifle. These new ELD bullets have MUCH better physical characteristics than the 168 gr. Thats surprising as .308 has a reputation as being an inherently accurate, consistent cartridge. It shoots marvelously well off-hand. Ruger Precision Targets were set-up at 100 yards, and I did a lot of walking back and forth to check my targets no spotting scope. Getting a barrel so hot that you cant touch it with your bare hand is how you start eroding the throat. The set-up looks more than a little different than your typical bolt-action hunting rifle, thats for sure. Only for men. (Believe me, I know I am spoiled). Add to Compare. Ill have to run a comparison test myself, with Federal Gold 168, NATO 147 gr 7.62 & some Atomic match. Just be sure to test different ammo varieties, to see what gives you the best accuracy, and I know youll find a load that your Ruger will like. The barrel is capped with Accu-trigger and Accu-stock. Even with a worn throat, it will do sub MOA. Im not sure if you got a dud, had equipment (scope, mount) failure, it was operator error or maybe the barrel was badly fouled. Most sniping takes place at well under 500-yards. However, as you well know, the 7.62 NATO works just fine, and is the smartest cartridge to own. They make them for the RPR. I no longer have any 6.5 Swedes, but an old man can dream. I am getting my Viper HS-T properly mounted this week and will hit it again this weekend. A magnification range of 4-12 / 16x or 6-24x is ideal for long-range shooting, I will be interested to see what results are obtained with decent barrels. Surely not! WebRuger Precision Rifle .308 Winchester Optics not included StockFolding, Adjustable Length of Pull and Comb Height Barrel Length20" BarrelCold Hammer-Forged, 5R Rifling HandguardRuger Precision Rifle Short-Action Twist1:10" RH Grooves5 Weight9.8 lb. Would be like a Corvette vs. a riced out Honda Civic. Maybe by then I can find a replacement Creedmore match barrel without having to mortgage my house to pay for it. Curious about bore diameter relating to weight and such, I pounded a French-press worth of coffee, and dusted off some underused math skills, and found that the change in bore diameter didnt matter one bit. Heavy-contour (.875" at the muzzle) barrel features a Ruger Precision Rifle Magnum Muzzle Brake with tunable compensator to effectively reduce recoil and muzzle Just about every rifle I know of that guarantees 1/2 moa 5 shots at 100 yards have barrels longer that a measly 20 for example; Sako TRG 42, Remington 40X, any of Don Fraley builds (Advanced Weapons Technology) etc. One day, my friend and I were shooting our Remington M700 Varminter Synthetic .308s with 168 grain match loads out to about 700m. Im still trying to get decent accuracy from it. Ill take one in 308 and put the money I save toward a suppressor. Shes all mine. And as if my prayers had been extra-double answered, one day later an email hit my inbox from our perpetual patrons at Kentucky Gun Company to let me know that they had a RPR in .308 WIN that we could thrash around on as well. There is no way to break in or lap such a thing. For my part, I am amazed on the number of growed -up men who reluctantly approach my 03 Springfield like it was a Safari rifle. What youre also sacrificing when you shorten a barrel is your sight radius. Some of the best bolt-action rifles include the Remington 700, Tikka T3x TAC A1, and Ruger Precision Rifle. Otherwise, not every barrel is going to come off the line with the same accuracy, especially before theyve been worn in. I ran the 6.5 really hard during my testing. is a much better option. When I first got to basic, that rifle did to me what it did to everybody else, at first, and that would be giving every one first shooting it a massive goose-egg on their cheek, we all lived to shoot another day. Match Kings. and Smithing. If Im in a situation where I have an issue exiting a vehicle fast with a bolt gun, Ive screwed up, big time, starting a long, long, loooong ways back up a decision chain, starting right around the point where I said Im going to involve myself in something that requires I exit a vehicle quickly with a bolt gun, because it sounds like fun!.. Please let others know they too can trust SurvivalBlog for the most reliable and practical survival information by voting for SurvivalBlog on topprepperwebsites.com. WebModel Number: 18028 Caliber: 308 Win StockFolding, Adjustable Length of Pull and Comb Height FinishType III Black Hard-Coat Anodized Barrel Length20" BarrelCold Hammer Its intended use is as a long range precision rifle, primarily aimed at those who want to get into competitions. For semi-automatic rifles, the Armalite AR-10 and DPMS LR-308 are both excellent choices. Folded length is 31.60-inches and it is easy to fold the stock closed. (Speaking of maneuverability, the RPRs magazine-well front is contoured for a positive grip for bracing against shooting supports.). Overall Length: 39.25"-42.75". However Im not giving up yet. All mags worked fine. It also seemed that several guys had bad bores, and some noted that they had .5 MOA cold, but broke down as barrel heated (and some posters were able to get consistent .5 MOA from the get-go). Ive tested all sorts of handloads and factory loads. Another thing that I feel the need to point out, is that Sniper Rifle is another made up term by the anti-gun establishment, just like Assault Weapon. Four inches may not sound like a lot, but it can mean the world when working off a barrier or out of a truck where that length can mean being able to quickly bring the gun to bear, or having to take a step back to give yourself more room to work. and 140 gr. Could it be that longer barrels produce better real-world results, especially past 100 yards? After 84 years, the throat on my M38 worn, yet still shoots good. The proof is cut and wrapped up in my freezer. I never intended it to be a 1000yrd shooter. The results of my testing at the 100-yard line are below. A sniper rifle is a rifle used by a sniper it is not a specific type or caliber. Not all rifles within this range have aluminum bolt shrouds. They really shine with 3x the barrel life in a magnum rifle and you also gain some corrosion resistance. This problem is of course only amplified when you screw a silencer to the end of the barrel. Since that was a virgin bore, may lapping improve its performance? I know most people around here are not fans of dead tree rags but I dont think they lied about the results. Out of the box, 90 minutes on the range with a $109 scope. My 06 works just fine. Cmon Tylerrecoil gripes? Have topped it with a Vortex Viper PST 4-1650 on a LaRue mount. all day long. This gun never seemed to be a laser in my hands. Well see.. Its all part of the fun, attempting the impossible. Happy Hunting. Just something to think on. Wish I had saved it, but American Rifleman did a review of a 16 with their 55 protocol and got ~1moa. This rifle is a great, economical, and very accurate tool. Long barrels are fine if they come with a corresponding increase in girth. However, the SST might be more reliable. Tyler Kee is a small town kid trying to make it in the big city of Austin, Texas. This makes it easy for anyone one to quickly get into the long range precision game. Ruger Precision Rifle .308 Win. 18028 - Bolt Action Rifles at Ive tried various weights and loads, factory and handloads. Ive loaded some of the new Hornady ELD Match bullets (208 gr). Lets take a Rem 700 AAC-SD like the one that Nick tested awhile back. Ok, but would you expect that F-class Savage to be as light and handy as your tactical carbine or truck gun? In about 3 months Ill be able to update on how its working out. Safety: Ambidextrous 45 manual safety selector. Round #3 was 2 higher, but I attribute that to the guy shooting next to me kicking my mat that the bi pod was standing on as I pulled the trigger. I have two proven sniper rifles, one a savage axis 270, scoped with a redfield 412. But in that same string of testing, I shot a 1.698 MOA group. If you enjoyed this article youll probably like these: 5 Best Ruger 10/22 Receivers Only mod for the new barrel was a custom cut of the barrel down to 21 3/4 from 22 to achieve the best barrel harmonics. Im confident in saying that this is a problem across the whole line. Ruger still very much has a winner on their hands. That being said it wont shoot (accurately) past about 850 yards. Is there anything inherent with .308 that makes it more difficult to lay down tight groups? With that kind of accuracy, that is not that much money. I would love to see that ar 10 get that kind of accuracy I would never believe it I would have to see it Be there you know what I mean! Ms. Weiss appears to me to have been born a girl (if Ms. KJW would argue with this, I will stand corrected), so I think we can exclude the possibility that shes a trans female who was originally endowed with the upper body strength of a male. It will shoot sub MOA all day long probably around .75 or so. More from The Truth About Guns: Hornady ELD-X, 2016 TTAG Readers Choice Best New Ammunition: Hornady ELD-X. With the 6.5 CM you should expect no worse than .65-.75 MOA at any range up to 500 yards with minimal wind gusts. Its a good thing Bumblebees dont know they cant fly. The barrel wear should not be as much of concern within 500 yard ranges as you only need 1.5 MOA, or so, to be accurate enough. If the rifle doesnt perform its intended job, that is a legitimate criticism. At a certain point, .308 is .308 and bullet weight doesnt matter. So far, so good. Between dies, powder, bullets, and pallets of cheap(ish) NATO ammo, the rifle they buy is going to be a .308. I have since re-barreled it(26LRI) and can only get it down to a .42 MOA with an average of about .6. And, Ive heard this asked many, many times do you have any sniper rifles? and when that question is asked of me, Ill point to all the long guns on the racks. On to the biggest difference. The military flash hider on the M14/M1A is superb if you can arrange it. It takes every bit of 500 yards to for the Creedmore to catch up with the .308 energy wise, but theres two ways to look at that. The Win 52B/C/D was the target .22 for decades in the US, with some of the heaviest variants running upwards of 12.5 lbs. Rugers have never been known for their accuracy, especially their old bolt guns with that cockamamey combination action screw/recoil lug.
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